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bastion
Why don't all the Fed fans just not petition Fed to stop playing tennis because he is now just too old to be part of the goat debate ... and therefore all the excuses, whining and moaning about him being dominated by the two better goats, or ask him to go play the senior golden oldies tournaments since his 'prime' stopped the day the other two became better than him?

Here are the tennis facts again, showing the difference: Yes, we all agree in their primes they all won a lot of GS's and dominated in their own way, but it is not just how you started, but how you end... ask every great athlete who holds the 800m Olympic gold...: or what about soccer, or cricket, are we going to say stop, the best teams are those that were in the lead at half-time, not who won the matches or trophies?

Stop the nonsense talk, if we don't do it in other sports, don't do it in tennis! 🙄😬

What is next, if Sampras were born later, then Fed would only have had 3 Wimby titles playing in Sampras prime? 🤔🤪

Here are some tennis facts, the reality is now:

How many GS has Roger won since he became 30, the 'old man' era? 4 in 9/10 years

How many GS has Rafa won since he became 30, the 'old man' era? 6 in 4/5 years

How many GS has Novak won since he became 30, the 'old man' era? 8 in 4/5 years

Really Fed fans, stop embarrassing yourself even further, the TENNIS FACTS already speak for themselves.

I really really do believe Fed can maybe add another one here, goat class is there, even not in his 'prime', it is still much better than anything Med/Hurkaz/Matteo can throw at him, the only big problem is, is if Novak makes the finals, that is about it.... This is his best chance, maybe last chance, but do you all really think Rafa and Novak not going to add anymore GS from now until they 39/40 years old?

Yes, many things can still happen that we do not expect, major injuries, retirement, a new golden era for Rafa and even Fed ... but at this stage, the GOAT race imho already determined, it is only one or two 'stats' needed to make it a two horse race at this stage:

1. Novak
2. Rafa
3. Fed

Make peace with it, and enjoy the tennis of all goats, as they keep on making history, and while they still last, because it is not going to be forever! 😬





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bastion
Like I said, the standard for goatness will change with time ... from tennis facts to social media hits, table manners, who has the most teeny bob followers, who has the nicest hair, etc. 😉😬
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AdamS
Joker eats goats for breakfast, since there are no bulls available at the moment! :)
No sugarcoating needed ..........plain!
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Milutin
Actually Rafa and Roger had much more easier draws than Nole. Just search a little bit in TT, you can find every GS, and you will see that he had much more harder draws than Rafa or Federer. So stop crying Jeff
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Nico
Fucsovics has been playing very well this tournament. This match will probably go the distance and Fucsovics might even win it
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Justtennis
@Bastion...stop talking non sense n just enjoy tennis man... your joker wiill never become GOAT
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realJeffWest
Playing Fuc in a QF my god.
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bastion
Ironically Fed and Nadal telling each other their rivalry are the biggest in tennis?

😳😁😉
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sinha.saurabh08
Federer was 35 when Djokovic could finally overtake him in the h2h. After 45 meetings. How about that!
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Federer fan
Guys have peace... Goat debate can be decided only after all the 3 retire... So theres no point fighting over it... And I personally feel it would never end at all.... So just enjoy tennis now
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KyraWTA
Why can’t we just like all of the big three and celebrate their accomplishments rather than bashing and comparing them?
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realJeffWest
This is like a 250 tournament in terms of his draw. Garin for fourth round?
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hemantsakpal19
Federer did beat nadal in wimby and joker also in the finals on papers tiebreaker saved the robot which always favours a pusher
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Pritam
Fucsovics in 3 sets 😂
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sinha.saurabh08
Federer didn't get a week era. He just made everyone else look silly. See any of his old matches, the level of fitness, hard hitting, accuracy, much much better than what he has now. And he is still going deep in slams. A young Federer in his prime would have no contest from Djokovic or anybody else. Except Rafa on clay.
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Milutin
@sinha From 2011 Djokovic won most of the matches against Federer. Federer then was 30. H2H was still on Fed then, but its because he earlier played against very young Nole.

We all know that from 2011 Nole is dominating tennis. Nadal and Federer are not even close to him. And it still continues
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Milutin
If you use age as excuse, just imagine that when Federer was 28, Nadal and Djoko started to dominate him, but when Nole was 28, he made best tennis season ever in tennis (2015)
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Pritam
Pretty soon the argument for Goat will be who has the better smile, who is more loved, who has most fans, who has most sponsorship, who has most fb followers etc
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Happyrains
I predict the winner's name will contain the letters "ovic" 🔮
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jeet123
Adam i already have a permanent job....Fed's brand value is the best among all tennis players and his agent tony is doing a great Job....so no need to hire me 😄😄.

He is the most popular athelete in the game and doesn't much PR stuff to increase his fanbase or support like you guys do.
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realJeffWest
Fourth rounds should be against Shap, QF against like a del po, semis against a top 4, and final against a top 2. He playing like top 20-30s in these stages
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Omkar Vechlekar
Fact:: Federer, Djokovic or Nadal do not care about this Goat Goat Goat talk.. And they certainly do not care about the opinions of you guys so keep it classy! I mean in all honesty, they are not going to read your comments so I seriously don't understand why y'all are trying to put each other down... It's laughable really
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Justtennis
Fucsovic in 5 sets..
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Milutin
Wimbledon and Rolland Garros 2008, till Finals Federer played all unseeded players. I can find you more if you wish
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Pritam
In Djoker's prime Roger led 13-6? Djoker's prime is still going on. He hasn't lost his so called prime at 28. You meant to se before prime I guess. Anyways when did I use Novak's young age as excuse? Remember 08 aus semi when he won in straight sets against Roger? Now you will say he was injured. To that I will say Novak's allergy to gluten to 2010. These excuses will never end. Fed had an advantage in Novak's younger years and Novak has an advantage in Roger's older years. So, I am cancelling it out.

If anyone needs excuses in this rivalry it's Roger because he hasn't beaten Novak in slams since 2012 when he was just 30 and he is losing in h2h also. The so called Goat is not even the best of his own generation with losing h2h against his biggest rivals. The only stat in which Roger has a slender edge is gs count other than that Novak is leading in every big record. Don't worry, Novak will lead in that as well.
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Milutin
If Roger has 20 and Nole 10 slams that would be difference. Now, only one slam is not bigger that all other records. But if you wish, we will wait a little bit, and Nole will have more slams also
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Roger_1
The fact that you are arguing about him and writing essays to prove he is not is telling me he is the greatest for sure.
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jeet123
Roger 1 they are strengthening their resume. I hope djoker is keeping an eye on these stuffs...very soon some them will get hired in Djokers PR management. I mean who can defend his on court antics and sugarcoat the achievements by writing long essays better than these guys 😄. Add another thing they have good Fed bashing skills.
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AdamS
Jeet, is this how you got your permanent job?
How much is Fed paying you?
Is it worth the price of your soul......lol?
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Justtennis
Joker is a wolf as he said and he never becomes GOAT...lol
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