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If we base it on another criterion, it's completely subjective, it doesn't mean anything anymore," Mouratoglou unfiltered on the GOAT debate

If we base it on another criterion, it's completely subjective, it doesn't mean anything anymore, Mouratoglou unfiltered on the GOAT debate
le 16/06/2025 à 11h06

In an interview with Eurosport, Naomi Osaka's coach, Patrick Mouratoglou, candidly addressed the debate over the greatest tennis player of all time. According to him, there’s no room for discussion—Djokovic is ahead of Federer and Nadal:

"There’s no debate, it’s a fake debate. When you look at the three greatest, whether it’s pleasing or not, one of the three is the greatest of all. He’s been world No. 1 longer, he’s won more Grand Slams, more Masters 1000s, he beats them everywhere—it’s Novak. When you look at the three, two of them were already dominating when Novak arrived. Everyone said they were unbeatable.

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Novak arrived with a very average level of play, and even today, at the end of his career, when you look at Rafa’s game, Roger’s game, and Novak’s game, it’s incredible that Novak is the strongest of the three, the one who broke all the records. It just goes to show that the most important thing isn’t just tennis. I know it bothers some people when we talk about mindset, mentality, but it’s by far the most important thing.

Yes, numbers don’t tell the whole story, and maybe in 50 years, we’ll say Federer left an infinitely greater legacy than Novak—maybe. But the fact remains, when we have to name the greatest player of all time, we have to base it on achievements. If we base it on another criterion, it’s completely subjective, it doesn’t mean anything anymore. And in what other sport would this topic even come up? Track and field? Impossible.

Naomi Osaka
16e, 2487 points
Roger Federer
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Novak Djokovic
4e, 4830 points
Rafael Nadal
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"... Novak is the strongest of the three, the one who broke all the records." It's difficult to logically disagree that Djokovic is the GOAT, but Federer, Nadal and Djokovic each hold records the others will never break. And it's not totally fair to compare the three outright. Federer had a no competition era when he was coming of age, but had to contend with Nadal and Djokovic at the end of his career. Djokovic had to contend with Nadal and Federer at the beginning of his career, but had a no competition era at the end. Nadal had to contend with Federer at the beginning of his career, Federer and Djokovic in middle and Djokovic at the end. He never had a no competition era.
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8h

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1...a walķover will not be a loss. We have no control of player's health. If he or she is entered in a contest we expect them to play.

2...an incomplete match is not a loss. If a player forfeits we pick another match if there are more to choose.

3...this also applies if TT cancels a match. TT will not take hours to decide an outcome.

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10h

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As a long time player and lover of this game , I don't know how much of this I can tolerate. For example I waited hours last night for you to confirm my win and post my points. Every ot...

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5j

This week I have used all my formulas and best guesses to try to achieve the high score jimandlori958 set in our last competition. I am two games short because of cancelations and I need all wins to get there.

8j

why did tennis tonic void predictions on the match between Grenier and Hsu at the Kobe tournament? The match was played to completion and on time.

8j

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11j

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18j

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