Yayyyy R♡GER!!!!

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Just accept the defeat..don't cribb....lol

R♡GER makes my world go...

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Oh, and about reading the game ? it's the ROS, look at where Federer stands when he returns Nadal serves, and look at where Nadal stood when he returns Federer's (at least 5 meters behind the baseline) why ? he can't read serves as well, he choose to stand further back in order to react to them.. he's a baseline counter puncher, that's how he built his game.. Federee is an all rounder, he usually play offensive baseline or S&V..

Federer is better than everyone else BUT Nadal on clay, Nadal cant say the same.. you think it's only serves ? it's the court speed you ignorant.. it helps servers yes BUT everything else of the game too.. Nadal's forehand requires a huge backswing, the balls are faster as well, which leads to two things, if he can't get to the ball and prepare early, he cant hit his favourite and frankly speaking the only shot that he's good at, FH with huge topspin.. rather than saying that other courts dont suit him, you should say that he's only good on clay and slightly better than most on other courts.. in fact, both Djkovic and Murray are better than Nadal on BOTH Grass and Hardcourt.. they rely on serves too ? lmao..

that's a shit of an argument, many years ago slams were played on Grass, how would Federer fare there ? that's not only stupid it's inconclusive, work with what you have, only the weak complain about the circumstance.. Nadal better than Federer on the surface just because he beat him there ? Federer made Nadal cry in the locker room back in 2007 too, Stan made him cry in AO, and Federer cry even when he wins, what's your point ?

simple question, who's better at Grass ? Sampras or Nadal ? easy, Sampras, why ? 7 Wimbledon > 2 Wimbledon.. the logic is really simple.. apply the same elsewhere,

Hardcourt Majors Federer > Djokovic > Nadal

Grass Major Fed > Djo > Nadal

Clay Major Nadal > Fed/ Djo

WTFs/ YEC Fed > Djo > Nadal

Rafa injured himself because of his playstyle, are you really his fan ? he pushed himself harder than anyone else on the tour and it stresses his knees more.. look at the gravitational force he exerts on his knees, it's 6g, Federer's is only 3, a body is not made to withstand anything more than 5gs.. educate yourself before blaming everything on serves.. it's almost like Fed blaming playing a leftie as being unsuitable.. he should play only righties, now I'm not saying that Rafa depended on being a lefty to win Fed but he relies heavily on it.. sounds dumb ? sounds exactly like yours

Anyways, Roger is not about long rallies and hitting balls with power. Roger is all about tactics and strategy and THAT's what makes him THE BEST in my eyes. ;)

Ever since Denis beat Rafa, I immediately envisioned a Denis vs Sascha semi finals match. Can't wait for that! :)

Streaky yet another straight sets victory

Montreal title and No 1 well in sight.

Goodnight. :)

Very Easy draw for nadal too, wat he did?

Right. I've been silently reading your stuff for a while. It's pretty funny. I prefer the more objective opinions, but passionate and silly is fun too.

The golden era of tennis has been incredible. Personally I believe the matches (2010-2014) between Nadal and Djokovic are the greatest. It's true tennis, neither reliant on serve and it was always a war. I don't think Djokovic gets the respect he deserves.

Roger is incredible but if you take that serve away then I doubt he would have won more than five slams. Personally, I don't want to watch serving (whether it's placed or smashed - equally as boring). I wish the tennis federation would limit it to one serve (go for it at your peril, or just put it in and see if you can play tennis).

If you look at the recent history of tennis, servers struggle when they have to play 'tennis'. Sampras and Becker couldn't win the FO, in fact they couldn't get to the final. Roger won it when he didn't have to play Rafa and now doesn't want to bother with it. Three out of the four slams suit Roger because they don't nullify his serve. So for Rafa to be only four slams behind is quite amazing I think, considering that three of the four slams don't suit him. He has also managed to master Roger in slams on hard courts and grass, something Roger cannot replicate against Nadal on clay.

It's all relative I guess, but what if two of the slams were on clay (you know, the surface on which you actually have to play 'tennis'). You could take 10 off Roger and put 10 onto Nadal's tally. Just saying.

I'm English and I really don't like Wimbledon. It's both an elitest English garden and a server's paradise. It's boring - no tennis. I don't think the 2008 final is the greatest match of all time, it was good but nothing like some of the brutal matches between Djokovic and Nadal, especially 2012 Aussie Open final.

I'm not dissing Roger at all, it's incredible what he's doing aged 36. However, the tour suits him. He has a great serve and that is beneficial for three quarters of the season. Serve is almost everything unless you are a great enough a 'tennis' player to deal with it. Nadal and Djokovic have been able to deal with it in many slam finals and because they don't have that serve and are heavily reliant on actually playing 'tennis' then personally I would rather watch them. You have to make Roger play tennis, he doesn't want to. He wants to serve and hopefully the ball doesn't come back over the net. Yes (before you say it), he has to break too, but he isn't under as much pressure to hold his own serve so it's much more comfortable. 10,000 aces I believe, only Karlovic and Ivanisevic can boast the same and nobody calls Roger a server?

Quick thing about Murray - he's a distant, distant fourth/fifth. There is a big three, not a big four. And the three will be legends forever, Murray won't be. It's not his fault, he just isn't remotely as good as them. Facts are facts.

Anyway, that's what I think and now I'm bracing myself for a barrage of abuse, ha.

Ahhh!! Lol!!
Someone shouted "Go Roger" when Haase was getting ready to serve. So he stopped and said "no, my name is Robin". Crowd started laughing. He's so cute.

R♡GER is.....

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This match shows how great Roger is (if that has been a question mark for someone). Haase played the tennis of his life and if Roger had been sidelined it could have been enough to clinch the title considering the two condenders in the other semi (not reducing the greatness of neither of them). Yet Roger prevails in two, not playing his best tennis.. That's just wow!

Another crybaby .. Roger has only great serve blah blah.. oh shut up already .. get some knowledge of tennis..

You know i can say the same right ? can't return serves ? that's it I'm not playing this game ~ lmao ~ omg, tournament doesnt suit me, I'll just complain and lose then.. fts about actually adapting so i can play better than Federer both on Hard and Grass, hahaha ~ that's really a lame excuse.. the lousiest actually, the tournament was there before any of the big 4 was born.. you think it'd be really stupid if they dont play according to the available surface rather than lamenting the surface was bad for them huh..

lol, Nadal with no serve hence you damn all the servers, never mind that Nadal dominated 2010 with his serves.. do you really know your idol ? if he wants to play better on hardcourt then why not work on his serves ? why not work on his return ? because he cant ? then he don't deserve to win isnt it ? if Novak can work on his returns and backhand, i dont see why Nadal cant..

tennis is about everything serves, ROS, fh bh slice volley smash mental footwork everything.. you accept that Nadal just cant play like Roger, not lament that the surface is unsuitable for him.. that's bullshit unless they play on different surface at the same court..

The most boring thing in tennis is to watch two guys just pushing the ball trillion times here and there and not having the ability to finish the point early through some jaw dropping all court game.. with Roger u realise tennis is an art, suspense,drama and anticipation..

What's with all the articles on this thread? Where are the simple comments??

R♡GER all the way!!!

Well done Roger

I luv snupy

Whoop whoop Roger. Excellent.

As if Nadal had the toughest draw in the world.
Excuses...
Go home and get some sleep.
You will be needing it until end of year.
Since federer will be sweeping everything in his path

@nichollsmarc57 I'm not sure if you really know what tennis is base on the sentence Nadal conquered; Federer fell short on Clay because of the King of Clay, Nadal lost against a lot of others, look linearly;

Weeks at top, Federer had 302, Nadal at 141, that's less than half.. Year end number 1, Fed at 5, Nadal at 3.. let's see what else we have;
Federer 5 AO > Nadal's 1
Federer5 USO > Nadal's 2
Federer 8 Wimby > Nadal's 2
Federer 1 RG < Nadal's 10
Federer 6 WTFs > Nadal's ZERO
Olympic Federer Silver < Nadal Gold
Indian Wells - Federer
Miami - Federer
Monte Carlo - Nadal
Rome - Nadal
Madrid/Hamburg - Federer
Canada - Nadal
Cincy - Federer
Shanghai - Federer
Paris - Federer
12 > 5

Serves isn't the only thing he's good at, look at his earlier games, his IOFH is out of this world, vollies better than the other 2, has better footwork and can read the game better than either

@nichollsmarc57 first of all serve is part of the game just like forehand backhand or any other shot in the game. so if you say that serve speed is the advantage than so is forehand speed and spin, do you know how good nadal is if you take away his forehand spin...secondly serve speed is not the only measure to determine a good serve. Nadal has a slow serve but when it comes to placing it he is one of the best, so dont say that nadal has got no serve. and even if speed matters that much than there are players like raonic, isner, karlovic, theim, monfils, dimitrov, verdasco, lopez and many more who can serve at better speeds than roger but still they are not even close to roger when it comes to placing it in the right positions

Rafa is the king of clay! Why, because the spinrate in his forehand is killing everybody. Every player who managed playing close to the baseline so far came near or won over Nadal. Thiem made an exempel out of it this year on HOW to play and win quite easily with it. The second time he couldn´t commit to the gameplan and lost it in three.
THEREFORE it is really a pitty that Federer didn´t play this years clay season, because all of his groundstrokes are much more aggressiv, better than ever i would say, especially his backhand and he plays closer to the baseline. And lets not forget that he is the smarter player. In my opinion he would have won the FO this year. Because he is mentally stronger so far and had all the tools to do it.
And have in mind that at the age of 35 he worked still hard to change/adept his gameplan, even made technical adjustments to not only be competitive but to crush his opponents. This to me is a sign of mental toughness, endurance, great commitment to the sport and thus shows greatness. Why won´t Rafa work harder to be more competitive on all surfaces? Maybe he has reached his limits to what he can do, right?
All are great athlets but there is only one who never stops to surprise!

Who cares about these 'fake' Rafa fans.
Had they been true Rafa fans they won't call for him to retire everyrime he loses.
Let them whine coz that's all they know .

Talk about essays lol. Come on Fed

Difficult to address all of your points so I'll have to choose the most prevalent ones.

To some of you great, I like your points and there is nothing wrong with a debate. To those calling me weak, ignorant, stupid, and saying that I'm shaming and belittling myself and that I should educate myself, then grow up - it's very childish. Just because I said Roger relies heavily on his serve? And that the tour suits his style? He does. It does. I did expect this nonsense though hence my hesitation in joining. I have said nothing nasty about any of you or Roger yet you are reacting angrily and saying nasty things about me. I'm entitled to my opinion whether you like it or not. I've not intimated anything angrily yet the Roger fans are going for me. Now who is over the top? How dare I even question Roger!?!

Some of you are calling me a sore loser and a bitter Rafa fan. In what way am I losing? I'm delighted with Rafa's career. Ten FOs will almost certainly never be beaten (a pretty incredible achievement which people seem to take for granted), and he won all of the other slams, four Davis cups and Olympic gold. Rafa beat Roger in his prime on three different surfaces in grand slam finals within the space of 9 months, yet he is labelled a one trick pony. Did Roger beat Rafa at RG? Nope.

And in what way am I sore? I've repeatedly complimented Roger if you actually read what I have written. And in terms of who will win the most slams, he has very little to worry about. It's incredible what he's achieving at his age. He deserves it.

I recently read an article which explained that the Rafa/Roger debate is pretty toxic and unnecessary. Reading some of your comments I'm inclined to agree. Am I not allowed to prefer Rafa and Novak's style of play? Is that a crime?

Let's face it, this season has been quite low quality. The Aussie Open was pretty good then the FO and Wimbledon were rubbish. You've got a crocked and injury prone 31 year old and a 35 year old (at the time) winning slams without dropping a set. The younger players should be a little embarrassed. And no way Roger is as good as he was when he was 26, and Rafa when he was 22 - the opposition is just worse.

Someone said Murray is better than Nadal on hard courts. Nadal has a 3-0 h2h at Wimbledon, they have both won 2 Wimbledons. Nadal has 3 hard court slams to 1. And culmutively Nadal has been in more grass and hard court slam finals.

People are also a little bit forgetful. Roger hadn't won a slam since 2012 until this year. That's not a criticism, before people jump on me, it's a fact. However, he has always been incredibly consistent in going deep into tournaments - semis/finals etc. There is little competition this year though.

Someone said Rafa can't read Roger's serves. Well if that case then Rafa has done very well in his own ignorance considering the head 2 head and especially in big grand slam matches. He must have a sixth sense or something, or maybe it's a fluke. I dunno.

Yes to whoever said Rafa's injuries are due to the way he plays. Of course, everyone knows that. It's more exciting to watch though and it is a spectator sport after all. He missed 4 or 5 slams in his prime, you've got to think he would have won at least two of them had he been fit. And yes, I'm sure he's tried to improve what he's not so good at, he probably does it every day. It took Roger 5 years of attempting to adapt to win his 18th slam - got a bigger raquet. And yes the top spin is very important on clay but in slams Djokovic came very close to working it out, Fed didn't.

I went to Queen's and it was disappointing. Similar to Wimbledon, it's nothing but a serving competition. Look at who wins Wimbledon: Samp, Fed - 15 between them, Krajicek, Stich, Ivanisevic etc, then finalists like Phillippousis, Berdych, Raonic, Cilic (and what a pathetic effort that was - I've got a blister). So it's great when the likes of Agassi, Hewitt, Nadal, Djokovic etc win it playing 'tennis', with no discernable serve as a true weapon.

Sorry for those of you complaining about essays. Just don't read it.

1st set under 30 mins and that's because he lost one service game. #master

Ohhh that was bad Rog. But it's ok! ;)

Even The God can make silly mistakes lol

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